ISIS – Innovative Solutions In Space was founded in 2006 as a spin-off from Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands. One of its co-founders Abe Bonnema was going to speak at DIST 2013. But because our event coincided with their satellite launch that had piggybacked on a Chinese Long March 2D rocket earlier that day in Jiuquan in the northwest of China, we instead called Abe on his mobile phone while he was still somewhere near the launch site.